Vande Mataram
All right I ask THEM Don’t Sing Vande Mataram. Fine?
Then what NEXT?
What if you refuse to pay respect to the National Flag? NOT AT ALL you say! Convince us that no “secularist” will find or invent fault, even if none exists. As they have found this time when the “secular” Nehru and Maullana Azad and of-course, the forgotten Hero Neta Ji Subash Chandra Bose settled the issue and the GEET was adopted.
Please do not sing Vande Mataram, by all means, if it hurts your religious feelings. After all it is the religion first for you than the Nation.
But, pause and ponder, are you not suggesting that Islam is such a fragile faith? That it is always in danger by such an innocent and patriotic song and such other things. If this is untrue then what else all this ranting and ravings suggests?
On Sunday I happened to hear what our Honorable minister of state for home affairs Shri. Jai Prakash Jaiswal said about the whole issue, it appeared to me that more than Muslims it is the Congress who is against the Muslims to sing Vande Mataram. Nevertheless, if you still insist that you will not sing. Don’t sing.
What next then?
Jan Gana Man…? After all it too is in the honor of some one else than (*) ALLAH. Why is singing the GAAN not anti Islamic?
Further…
Constitution? Is it not against Shariya? After all you are supposed to be governed by the SHARIYA (Holy laws laid by the Prophet). Therefore believing in MAN WRITTEN/DRAWN laws, are not anti religion of yours????
Next…
The national emblem is taken from Sarnath Pillar of a HINDU Raja, The Ashoka The Great. So will you refuse to recognize it? And of course our national emblem is inscribed with the word “SATYAMEY JAYETA” in Devnagari script. Is this not, too against your religion and faith?
National Bird
Is the PEACOCK not closely associated with the Lord Krishna? Do you accept this beautiful bird as being “secular”? Is it not anti your religion that is “secular” and peace loving?
National Animal
Is the TIGER not recognized with MAA DURGA? Again, Tiger is anti Islam?
Last but not least…
Is it not your religious duty to annihilate all the NON-BELIEVERS (Kafirs)????????????
This all may look trivializing the issue and downrightly STUPID. And so it is.
But, the way and the arguments which are being advanced against the singing of Vande Matram by our “secular” brigade, the day is not far off when all the above will be opposed on one or another ground. Equalley sure I am that the “secular” brigade is so “intelligent” and its “eminent” scholars shall come out with startling facts and theories proving that who believe in all the above are “communal” and the “minority” community should be exempted from all this as “their religious feelings get hurt”.
Dear friends when as a kid my grand parents used to tell me the stories of Pre-Partition cunnings by Muslim League and compromises after compromises made by our great leaders then, I considered them “prejudiced”.
Today I feel sad that I didn’t believe them then. As we all see today, they were right?
Regards,
Anil Joshi
(*) This is a very litigious issue therefore, cannot comment or discuss.
2 comments:
Following are the comments recieved at my blog on NDTV.
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Comments
indhin Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:17:50 PM
Hindus worchip cows.The milk produced distributed and consumed today is cow milk.Butchers actually of the muslim community kill the cows as the congress under sonia allows for cows to be killed as she relishes cow meat.
So how is that Muslims drink cow milk which is an offshoot of the Indian hindu identity.
It is time for them to eat pig milk if it is available.
R Vyas Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:18:54 PM
Well said Anil. But when will our "secular leaders" wake up and understand. They will go to any extent to make 'them' happy. As for Muslims at large...there single point agenda is to make India a Islamic country and at the rate at which they are growing...well 2040 0r 2050 they will be more than Hindus in India. Kushwant Singh had rightly said "India is secular because Hindus are in majority". Just think what will happen in 2060...a la Afghanistan?????
For the sake of our beloved India and for our great religion today I am compelled to toe the RSS line.
Vande mataram
jay Tuesday, September 5, 2006 8:10:07 PM
im glade that hindus are waking up and its about time to stop fooling your selfe that seculisum will solve the problem.
Kewal Tuesday, September 5, 2006 3:09:09 PM
I join you and feel ashamed that I too did not believe them when they were alive.IT IS TRUE NOW AND WE ALL ARE SEEIING.
kk
supriya diwaker Tuesday, September 5, 2006 3:16:40 PM
Once again right on the head-this time need no permission to copy and start mailing-post a audio link if possible.
love INDIA
VANDE MATARAM
supriya
R Vyas Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:19:01 PM
Well said Anil. But when will our "secular leaders" wake up and understand. They will go to any extent to make 'them' happy. As for Muslims at large...there single point agenda is to make India a Islamic country and at the rate at which they are growing...well 2040 0r 2050 they will be more than Hindus in India. Kushwant Singh had rightly said "India is secular because Hindus are in majority". Just think what will happen in 2060...a la Afghanistan?????
For the sake of our beloved India and for our great religion today I am compelled to toe the RSS line.
Vande mataram
indian Tuesday, September 5, 2006 2:52:08 PM
WELL SAID.NEXT THEY WILL SAY WE ARE CHILDREN OF AKBAR / AURANGAZEB / MOHAMMED OF GHAZNI /SHAH JAHAN.HENCE GIVE US BACK ALL THE PROPERTIES OWNED BY THEM AS WELL AS ALL THE KINGDOMS RULED BY THEM.
THEY WILL ASK ALL NON MUSLIMS NOT TO EAT DURING ID .NOT TO TAKE THE NAME OF OTHER GODS IN PUBLIC.
WHAT DO WE DO.DO WE HAVE TO CONVERT TO ISLAM?
goelrk Tuesday, September 5, 2006 3:01:59 PM
I think that if Islam is not brittle (as I definitely believe, even while I a'm a hindu) enuf to get affecteted by Muslims singing Vande Mataram, surely India as well as Hinduism will continue to be stong enuf and venerated enuf even if most of the muslims don't feel like singing Vande Mataram- so what is the big deal either way?
chanchan Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:18:50 PM
Vande maataraM
sujalaaM suphalaaM malayaja shiitalaaM
SasyashyaamalaaM maataram ||
Shubhrajyotsnaa pulakitayaaminiiM
pullakusumita drumadala shobhiniiM
suhaasiniiM sumadhura bhaashhiNiiM
sukhadaaM varadaaM maataraM ||
JAI HIND
Human Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:40:21 PM
Will you guyz pl stop discussion on this matter.. Non sense.. If u feel "This is a very litigious issue therefore, cannot comment or discuss" why was this Blog posted.. Think before u do something.. Idiots... Be human first then be a patriotic / religoustic person then...
Human Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:41:15 PM
Will you guyz pl stop discussion on this matter.. Non sense.. If u feel "This is a very litigious issue therefore, cannot comment or discuss" why was this Blog posted.. Think before u do something.. Idiots... Be human first then be a patriotic / religoustic person then...
Indian Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:36:48 PM
Will u guys stop it... Non-sense..
Don't u have someother topic to discuss... It is becoming as though Hindu-Muslim religious problem.. Jus stop it.. Be with ur ideas.. Polititian created this issue inorder to dvert their problems... Thats it.
Be Human then Indian rather Hindu / Muslim.
A Faithful Indian Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:56:16 PM
Respected Friends,
What u r saying.Its totally showing ur ignorance i.e the lack of intelligance.An intelligant co mmunity/person can not force to do things.Its a matter of fatih and ..You are free to choose ur way of worship..and We too..
For the sake of Humanity and Prosperity of the India(i am Proud to be Indian),Dont fire such Inflamable Bullets..
Thanks & Regards,
A Faithful Indian
Manas Ghadei Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:20:26 PM
hats off to I am totally agreed with u . I am sure tomorrow they will say wake up in the morning and say Alah ho akabar and that is compulsory.I donot no how to kick those anti-socials in general and anti -Indians in particular.
imraaji Tuesday, September 5, 2006 5:33:16 PM
Anil as you've rightly written, if we start attching our religion to each and everything around us, we might come to point where some of us would start saying that we should not write from LEFT to RIGHT, rather we should write from RIGHT to LEFT, since the religion says so.
Comeon, we have much more serious issues ahead of us in order for us to become a Developed Nation.
Our leaders need to understand this better.
British people were following the Divide and Rule policy.Our leaders seem to be following their footsteps.
What they trying to do...captivate thier own country?
Atleast we citizens can be wiser.
Rajlaxmi
Ganesh Tuesday, September 5, 2006 5:21:53 PM
It would be indeed a foolish attempt to generalise the entire situation to all those who follow Islam. The fact being that it is just a group of anti-social elements who interpret the Quran in a different manner.
The underlyning article has been dealt with such a careless manner that it can very well add to the cold war between the Hindus and the Muslims. Is that all we want? The answer to this would be NO. People are sensible enough to decide what they should do and let us just leave it upto an individual to decide what he/she actually wants to do. And most important, let us not add fuel to the fire!!!!!!!!!
paijay13 Tuesday, September 5, 2006 6:19:57 PM
Well done shri Anil. Continue your crusade against `ignorant` seculars.
aniljoshi Tuesday, September 5, 2006 7:32:15 PM
I am Humbled by the response and thanks all of you.As a special mention to the post of Faithful Indian Tuesday, September 5, 2006 4:56:16 PM .
If this article is divisive in any which way then friend do read again.
This is just to convey the very fact,as the faith ful has mentioned in brackkets that he is proud of being Indian.WHY DOES HE HAVE TO QUALIFY,"Its a matter of fatih and ..You are free to choose ur way of worship..and We too..".Further he adds,"What u r saying.Its totally showing ur ignorance i.e the lack of intelligance.An intelligant co mmunity/person can not force to do things".
NO COMMENTS,let the readers judge.
Nationality can be a matter of personal choice but Nationalism,no way.
regards
anil joshi
iyerrc Tuesday, September 5, 2006 10:12:07 PM
dear mr anil vyas,only if our leaders are sleeping,they could be woken up.They are so busy dividing the country along different lines they are not happy with the progress achieved painstakingly in the past 60years.they would like the country go down,because it suits their needs.They are not happy with successes achieved under diverse conditions.The beauty of our country is finding Unity in diversity.which is difficult to digest and understand for people of other cultures and religions.
buster Tuesday, September 5, 2006 8:03:03 PM
Ganesh Tuesday, September 5, 2006 5:21:53 PM
This is exactally the point dear.But do let me know when was and wher ofcourse yo heard the "secular brigade" i.e. Javed/Shabana/Aamir and all oothers made a statement that WE TOO SHOULD SING.
And the drama is being made out of AR RAHMAN's singing the son,I heard he is a convert,was born Hindu.
VenkyBLR Tuesday, September 5, 2006 10:50:18 PM
It is time we Indians vote and bring back BJP to power with a 2/3rds majority so the constitution can be amended to change the National Anthem from 'Jana Gana Mana' to 'Vande Mataram'. I wonder what the muslims (who oppose 'Vande Mataram') will do then???
mishti21 Tuesday, September 5, 2006 11:14:04 PM
y v as respnsible citizen n enuf educated r nt able to understand its the game of politics and nt of patriotism.coz deshbhakti comes from with in .its nt forced neithr which ever sect is nt singing is anti nationalistic
mishti21 Tuesday, September 5, 2006 11:14:06 PM
y v as respnsible citizen n enuf educated r nt able to understand its the game of politics and nt of patriotism.coz deshbhakti comes from with in .its nt forced neithr which ever sect is nt singing is anti nationalistic
John Noble Wednesday, September 6, 2006 2:04:23 AM
There are numerous verses in the Koran preaching the slaughter of non-Muslims. In surah 8 ayat 12, the Koran exhorts the Muslims to strike off the heads of the non-Muslims and to maim them in evry limb. Surah 4 states the prophet does not take captives; he simply kills them. Islam was never peaceful and never will be. Always the friends and relations of the Muslim terrorists claim them to be innocent. They never help the state against Islamic terrorism. Islam has all the ingredients of destroying the world and unless Islam is destroyed, the world will remain unsafe.
Mansoor Wednesday, September 6, 2006 1:41:39 AM
Dear Brothers,
Please tell me,
Will you stop taking/giving bribe after singing the Vande Matram?,
Will corruption kicked out after the people sang the ?Vande Matram??
Will the clashing between lower/higher castes stops after singing the ?Vande Matram??
Will the ?Baniya? or businessman not make huge profit in the national interst after singing the ?Vande Matram??
Will you take any step to make the poor people rich, after singing the ?Vande Matram??
Will the Doctors helps the patients in reasonable fees?
Will ?Baniya? or businessmen will not cheat the Govt. and paid all taxes appropriately after singing the ?Vande Matram??
? ? ?. And there lots to questions about the people?? that.. after singing ?Vande Matram? will not be surely patriotic.
Why the corruption in every field is increasing day by day, why? why? why? Have you think about it, when every where viz. all Govt. Departments, all business organizations, all municipals corporations, all banks, businessmen, every where, the hindus, the patriotic people are sitting, then why the corruption is increasing day by day?
PLEASE THINK.. PLEASE THINK..
THINK WILL YOU PEOPLE BE 100% PATRIOTIC AFTER SINGING THE ?VANDE MATRAM? ?
DEAR ONLY SINGING ?VANDE MATRAM? IS NOT THE SCALE OF ?PATRIOTISM? ?.
John Noble Wednesday, September 6, 2006 2:06:20 AM
There are numerous verses in the Koran preaching the slaughter of non-Muslims. In surah 8 ayat 12, the Koran exhorts the Muslims to strike off the heads of the non-Muslims and to maim them in evry limb. Surah 4 states the prophet does not take captives; he simply kills them. Islam was nover peaceful and never will be. Always the friends and relations of the Muslim terrorists claim them to be innocent. They never help the state against Islamic terrorism. Islam has all the ingredients of destroying the world and unless Islam is destroyed, the world will remain unsafe.
DIVYA JHA Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:32:36 AM
u have done gr8 job infact u r 100% right, loving ur country comes first then loving ur religion, vande matram is for our nation not for religion.its doesnt mean being secular n non secular its being patriotic n n....., infact we in dav school used to say vande matram here in patna n there many muslims frd of us we all together say this n we feel very energetic after tht. afterall janani janmbhumi swargadapi gariyasi.
jai hind
jai bharat
vande matram
suanahan Wednesday, September 6, 2006 8:09:51 AM
When truth is unpalatable crude emotional comments are resorted to like the one by 0000.Debate issues/views and not e-mail IDs.Rumplestiltskin why restrict ourselves to 40 years and why not go furter back into the history? Incidentally even today if they had the ability wouln't the Arabs have dumped Israel in the Dead Sea? What Prophet Muhammad preached and what is being interpreted and practised by some fanatical muslims are diametrically opposite.If the prophet was to come down to earth again he would have definitely diapproved of their conduct.
khalid Wednesday, September 6, 2006 9:13:00 AM
well all i think is that u r one of those people who is worth pitying on .the reason being u r one of those guys who gets fooled by politicians and then starts chanting anti religion comments.usually politicians pay uneducated people to carry their hate propaganda against religions.in ur case u r doing it for free.shame on u ,as muslims,hindus and christians and sikhs,we are all brothers and no force in this world can separate us.DOnt communalize this issue,have u ever bothered to ask whether the 25 crore poulation of muslims in India have any objection in singing vande mataram.and the answer would be they have no objection.Hope u stop getting fooled because u indirectly are serving the politicians.wake up.
JAI HIND,
AN INDIAN MUSLIM
aniljoshi Wednesday, September 6, 2006 9:12:43 AM
Mansoor Wednesday, September 6, 2006 1:41:39 AM
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Dear Mansoor,
Issue here is not corruption.Agreed that by singing Vande Mataram alone issues like you mentioned are not going to go away.But tell me who is more capable of fighting these issues.A STRONG AND UNITED INDIA or An India where a large section of it's populace is busy defending its faith?
I have a counter question...
When was the last time Muslims took intiative to be the part of MainStream INDIA?
All we see every now and then the Community is engaged in busy defending some 15th. century laws and customs.All i suggest you folks is STOPPING VOTING IN THE MANNER YOU DO.Vote for the issues you mentioned in your post .As long as you keep voting on the basis "SECULARISM" these questions will be asked,I am afraid NOW the questioning will be more and much straight.
By They Way,will you sing VANDE MATARAM??????
Regards,
Anil Joshi
satanic Wednesday, September 6, 2006 9:53:15 AM
You can simply throw out your wife by just saying talaq talaq talaq, can the woman who you say have the equal right do the same and divorce her husband by saying so.
Muhammed married a SIX YEAR OLD KID Aisha,( his 12th wife) what do you say about that. How can a Huam being justify a marriage with a child who is youg to be grand daughter and who does not knwo what a marriage is.Quran say a mujhideen ( terrorist now) will be greated by 72 virgin ladies in heaven after his death. The quran is full of satanic verses for other religion.
No body says that all muslims are arab but the religion of Islam is arab centeric. Why is it that allah or God all his prophets to the arab land and was ignorant to the rest of the world created by him.
You call your religion to be the greatest of all yet a simple dutch cartoonist puts the faith of 1.2 billion in danger. Or a salman rushdie by describing the satanic versuses in quran
can you tell me about a place of non muslim worship in Saudi arabia or Iran, the ancient centuries old Budhha statues were bombed down by Taliban, taliban were the true followers of Islam isn'it.
Indian Muslims have idolise these heros of islam.
Poonam Aggarwal Wednesday, September 6, 2006 12:09:18 PM
Let Me join you Sir with my questions from these "SECULARS".
Q1.Who started the controversy?
A:Shri Shri Arjun Singh Ji Maharaj of the SONIA BRIGADE.
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Q2.Who said Muslims do not Singh?
A:The same MAHARAJ.
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Q3.Why Muslims should not sing.
A:Not because their religion prohibits them.NO.This way they can blackmail INDIANS (HINDUS) and get more concessions.JUST AS SONIA MATA?BALIDAAN MATA WANTS.
Jai Bharat.
VADE MATARAM
with love
Poonam
Amber Wednesday, September 6, 2006 3:58:09 PM
Well so much to say about Islam..but my dear if I start on ur so called religion then it i can write thesis on it. All i can call u is an ignorant idiot. hahaha
a_ajaz Wednesday, September 6, 2006 5:52:14 PM
Telgi has just confessed that Sharad Pawar and Chagan Bhujbal, along with many others, were involved in the multi crore stamp paper scam. do these poeple sing vande matram? yes, they do. so are they patriotic even after causing huge losses to our country, which is already reeling under poverty, unemployment and many such issues? Taking it further, are they patriotic who filled in their own coffers in the kargil coffin scam? Are the patriotic who take kickbacks in Bofors deal, UN oil for food programme, Enron deal, ..... and the list goes on and on and on. Do all of them not sing vande matram on top of their voices? The 'patriots' involved in the navy war room leak scandal... do they not sing Vande Matram. Shame on such kind of patriotism.
a123 Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:37:36 PM
if the Muslims cant sing the VM it is time to move along.Iam sure that they will be left behind not only in this issue but also later on in life when they need the Indians to come to their rescue.Until then May I say in advance :
VANDE MATARAM . INDIA . WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR PROTECTING US UNTIL DATE AND AM SURE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO IN FUTURE.
garima Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:49:57 PM
Hi ,
I am greatly impressed by this piece of yours.I absolutely agree that no person is that fickle minded that a song can hurt the sentiments .Let us remind all those people opposing the song that it is this song that united the people of this country during the days of our freedom struggle .They were not interested in such petty matters as what religious bending it might have .
Remember we said Inquilab Zindabad!
Long live our motherland!
Vande Mataram!
vijay-marxist Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:09:44 PM
Great!IT seems our Indian(HINDUS), they did not understand their own part(Muslims).It's sounds very bad that instead of discussing we r wasting our time on meaning less issue. I want to ask Anil Joshi. If Muslims add Some Religious Words ALLAH or Quranic Verses to SAAREY JAHAN SE ACHCHA or to JANA GAN MANA and make obligatory for all Indians to sing that song then what we will do? we will accept those songs as our National Song? never? then we dont have a right to ask them to accept our goddes Durgama or to say MAA to the Land. Because it's not allowed in their religion to accept. it's simple thing to accept n understand them. If they want to implement Islamic Rule they might have done here in During Mughals period only. Interestingly, the 1946 edition of history text book,Etihash Parichaya (Introduction to History), used in Bengal, published by the Hindustan Press, 10 Ramesh Dutta Street, Calcutta, for the 5thand6thgraders states: “If Aurangzeb had the intention of demolishing temples to make way for mosques, there would not have been a single temple standing erect in India. On the contrary, Aurangzeb donated huge estates for use as Temple sites and support thereof in Benares, Kashmir and elsewhere. The official documentations for these land grants are still extant.”
So, pls. stop such communal comments and pls. don’t listen to our dirty politicians, whose adopted Britisher’s policy to divide our country again.
So lets respect each other’s beliefs and lets build new India. be thankful to Muslims they r not asking u to sing
“SAAREY JAHAN SE ACHCHA YE ALLLAH KI ZAMEEN HAMAARI”
“HUM SIR JHUKAATEY HYN US KO JO HUM KO DIYA HY YE PYAARI ZAMEEN”
Then what u will do? Am sure u will object this song that provokes communal meanings. And u will create a more bigger issue than the Vandey Maataram.
And I have addressed this Issue in my BLOG: tiltle is
Dear, Indians (Muslims!) Vandey maatram Issue can be Solved (must read by all)
Poonam Aggarwal Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:24:08 PM
Arshad
If this is your research,fine good luck to you.
I stopped reading the moment I started.
Do you really read the post on which you are commenting or are busy promoting your sick blog?
I wasted my precious time on you.
NO THANKS FOR WASTING MY TIME.
Poonam
garima Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:49:07 PM
Hi ,
I am greatly impressed by this piece of yours.I absolutely agree that no person is that fickle minded that a song can hurt the sentiments .Let us remind all those people opposing the song that it is this song that united the people of this country during the days of our freedom struggle .They were not interested in such petty matters as what religious bending it might have .
Remember we said Inquilab Zindabad!
Long live our motherland!
Vande Mataram!
priyemohan Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:56:29 PM
vandematram,
A (un)Faithful Indian
u r right (An intelligant co mmunity/person can not force to do things.Its a matter of fatih)
u people r not inteligent nor faithful u cant sing national song wat else v expect from u ??
but enjoy singing vulger songs of bollywood that is islamic.
vandematram
K. Venugopal Wednesday, September 6, 2006 6:50:03 PM
Dear Anil Joshi,
All the points you have made are very logical.
Incidently, 'Satyameva Jayate' is a phrase taken from one of the Upanishads. A scholar pointed out that grammatically the phrase should be "Satyameva Jayati". It was Jawaharlal Nehru who said it cannot be changed since it is taken from the Upanishads.
Apun Ka Desh Wednesday, September 6, 2006 7:37:42 PM
Hardly any politician can sing this song, and far less know who is the writer.
Indian Politicians are only playing silly politics. They should not. They don't even know it is 100 years since which event ?
Read on:
http://apunkadesh.blogspot.com/
aaamir Wednesday, September 6, 2006 8:11:35 PM
Muslims dont worship Durga, Laxmi,earth or country.. So why making all these fuss against singing Vandemataram as a patriotic song.. My belief didnt hinder me from visiting Amritanandamayi when she came to Palakkad. My intention was to know why these people are going there to see her. I had/have full belief in my faith. It doesnt simply vanish by visiting some personalities or singing a song.
But at the same time, we should not be forced to do anything we doesnt want to do. In my childhood, when I was forced to attend the prayers at the chapel of the school I was studying, I refused. Later I went to Palani with my friends,(didnt bow to the deity ), just for the fun of that.. I have no intention to bow/worship anyother than The Almighty. I dont ask any benefit/forgiveness from anyone else.. Singing a song doesnt rip off my belief. Not singing a song doesnt rip off my patriotism. Its my choice..
I listen to the voice of my creator and I hear love and love only...
God bless you
SM Wednesday, September 6, 2006 8:49:33 PM
Tomorrow the Parsis / Jains will opposse this beacause of the probelems created by the faithful.
Then the Vaishnavs will join them as Durga cannot be praised.
Where there is ISLAM, there is darkness
SM Wednesday, September 6, 2006 8:45:27 PM
Tomorrow the Parsis / Jains will opposse this beacause of the probelems created by the faithful.
Then the Vaishnavs will join them as Durga cannot be praised.
Where there is ISLAM, there is darkness
desi_indian Wednesday, September 6, 2006 10:07:23 PM
It can happen only in India where the national song & anthem are not in national language....
jay Wednesday, September 6, 2006 8:17:32 PM
why muslim peopel dont condomn terrist as much as vandamatharam.Why muslim peopel dont speek out when terrist use allah during killing peopel but they have problem only for vandamatharam.why muslim people justfy suicide booming noone speek out against it but only this much of fuss for the song.this is a clear signe that muslim are anti indian they want to show ing thsi inderctly.
Jagdish Wednesday, September 6, 2006 10:51:02 PM
Read about it here also
http://aaina2.wordpress.com/2006/08/28/vandematram/
Mansoor Wednesday, September 6, 2006 10:55:42 PM
Great!IT seems our Indian(HINDUS), they did not understand their own part(Muslims).It's sounds very bad that instead of discussing we r wasting our time on meaning less issue. I want to ask Anil Joshi. If Muslims add Some Religious Words ALLAH or Quranic Verses to SAAREY JAHAN SE ACHCHA or to JANA GAN MANA and make obligatory for all Indians to sing that song then what we will do? we will accept those songs as our National Song? never? then we dont have a right to ask them to accept our goddes Durgama or to say MAA to the Land. Because it's not allowed in their religion to accept. it's simple thing to accept n understand them. If they want to implement Islamic Rule they might have done here in During Mughals period only. Interestingly, the 1946 edition of history text book,Etihash Parichaya (Introduction to History), used in Bengal, published by the Hindustan Press, 10 Ramesh Dutta Street, Calcutta, for the 5thand6thgraders states: “If Aurangzeb had the intention of demolishing temples to make way for mosques, there would not have been a single temple standing erect in India. On the contrary, Aurangzeb donated huge estates for use as Temple sites and support thereof in Benares, Kashmir and elsewhere. The official documentations for these land grants are still extant.”
So, pls. stop such communal comments and pls. don’t listen to our dirty politicians, whose adopted Britisher’s policy to divide our country again.
So lets respect each other’s beliefs and lets build new India. be thankful to Muslims they r not asking u to sing
“SAAREY JAHAN SE ACHCHA YE ALLLAH KI ZAMEEN HAMAARI”
“HUM SIR JHUKAATEY HYN US KO JO HUM KO DIYA HY YE PYAARI ZAMEEN”
Then what u will do? Am sure u will object this song that provokes communal meanings. And u will create a more bigger issue than the Vandey Maataram.
And I have addressed this Issue in my BLOG: tiltle is
Dear, Indians (Muslims!) Vandey maatram Issue can be Solved (must read by all)
Mansoor Wednesday, September 6, 2006 10:57:24 PM
Great!IT seems our Indian(HINDUS), they did not understand their own part(Muslims).It's sounds very bad that instead of discussing we r wasting our time on meaning less issue. I want to ask Anil Joshi. If Muslims add Some Religious Words ALLAH or Quranic Verses to SAAREY JAHAN SE ACHCHA or to JANA GAN MANA and make obligatory for all Indians to sing that song then what we will do? we will accept those songs as our National Song? never? then we dont have a right to ask them to accept our goddes Durgama or to say MAA to the Land. Because it's not allowed in their religion to accept. it's simple thing to accept n understand them. If they want to implement Islamic Rule they might have done here in During Mughals period only. Interestingly, the 1946 edition of history text book,Etihash Parichaya (Introduction to History), used in Bengal, published by the Hindustan Press, 10 Ramesh Dutta Street, Calcutta, for the 5thand6thgraders states: “If Aurangzeb had the intention of demolishing temples to make way for mosques, there would not have been a single temple standing erect in India. On the contrary, Aurangzeb donated huge estates for use as Temple sites and support thereof in Benares, Kashmir and elsewhere. The official documentations for these land grants are still extant.”
So, pls. stop such communal comments and pls. don’t listen to our dirty politicians, whose adopted Britisher’s policy to divide our country again.
So lets respect each other’s beliefs and lets build new India. be thankful to Muslims they r not asking u to sing
“SAAREY JAHAN SE ACHCHA YE ALLLAH KI ZAMEEN HAMAARI”
“HUM SIR JHUKAATEY HYN US KO JO HUM KO DIYA HY YE PYAARI ZAMEEN”
Then what u will do? Am sure u will object this song that provokes communal meanings. And u will create a more bigger issue than the Vandey Maataram.
aayu Wednesday, September 6, 2006 11:18:03 PM
well.. " vande mataram" to all indian saya my friend..!! and i exclaimed... 'what if thse indians are lesser'indians..? well india according to me is NOT a nationality.. its a feeling.. that one has to be... in.. and also ..i've friends calling me 4m abroad..saying' vande materam' .. well they arent indians...by nationality... but yes they respect india.. and thats all u need to sing ''vande materam''. yes.. you all u need is respect 4 one's a country..and thats it....!!!
Sheena Wednesday, September 6, 2006 11:58:21 AM
Damn good one .Right on the mark.As always straight,plain and simple questions which we always want to ask but dont as we become communal.
Dear I am tv journalist working with a secular channel.At times we get so frustrated (many of us)when we have to tone down if not simply suppress the truth,just so we are advised to be "POLITICALLY CORRECT".
I see that your are neither a journalist nor a politician.Therefore you have no compulsion to be "Politically Correct".
Keep on writing in the way you have been JUST,SIMPLE,PLAIN QUESTIONS.
Last to all my friends "SECULAR THREAT" by anil sir will help you to understand the context.on this same blog.
Thanks
with warm regards.
Sheena Singh.
Irshad Wednesday, September 6, 2006 12:01:25 PM
Please Incress you knowledge as half knowledge is very Dangeours and and I am sure that is what happening with you now.
Hope you will relaise it soon.
when you will start learning what is what you will not have any dout. think about it, because words spoken can't take back.
Sheena Wednesday, September 6, 2006 12:16:27 PM
Irshad BHAI HINDI MEIN LIKH LO YAAR YEH TUMERHI ANZREZI SAMAJH MEIN NAHI AATI.
TUM HI KUCH SIKHA DO YAAR.
Sheena
Anubhav Wednesday, September 6, 2006 12:32:27 PM
Dear Anil,Hi again.
I see that you have doing good.Carry on man carry on.Now this post is which hits where it hurts most.Right on the mark.
This time my friend woke me up to inform about this post.
I am glad to inform you that we all (most) of us are singing VANDE MATARAM.Allthough words are very very difficult yet we will sing with all the Honesty and Sincerity.
To all those Indians in India...wake up guys wake up.
If we here in UK are celebrating then what is wrong with you guys?
Regards
Anubhav
UK.
Jaswinder Kaur Wednesday, September 6, 2006 2:57:11 PM
I M Jaswinder and with all ,my family members,Dada Ji and Dadi ji,Veer ji and My Bhabi and nephew SUHKIWENDER and Niece GURBANI has started practising singig the song.WE WILL SING
VANDE MATARAM
JAI HINDUSTAN
VANDE MATARAM
From all of us,
Suhiwender and Gurbani
(their Bua )
Jaswinder
Pathankot
Poonam Aggarwal Wednesday, September 6, 2006 1:57:25 PM
All right Idris,
we apppreciate and believe in.
GREAT DEAR GREAT.
come forward you will not be shortchanged
idris khan Wednesday, September 6, 2006 1:35:35 PM
Vande maataraM
sujalaaM suphalaaM malayaja shiitalaaM
SasyashyaamalaaM maataram ||
Shubhrajyotsnaa pulakitayaaminiiM
pullakusumita drumadala shobhiniiM
suhaasiniiM sumadhura bhaashhiNiiM
sukhadaaM varadaaM maataraM ||
DO NOT ASK FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OUR PATRIOTISM EVERYTIME THERE IS AN ISSUE LIKE THIS. NOW ALSO 90% OF INDIANS WILL NOT SING VANDE MATARAM ON 07 SEP AND IN FEW SCHOOLS\COLLEGES WHERE IT WILL BE SUNG 90% WONT KNOW THE MEANING. SO WHATS THE BIG DEAL??? ALMOST >95% OF THE COUNTRY IN GENERAL AND PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING IT AN ISSUE DO NOT KNOW THE WORD AFTER VANDE MATARAM .SO!! RELAX!
MUHABATON ME HAI DONO KA EK HI MATLAB, ADA SE HAAN KAHO YA MUSKURA KE NAA KAH DO
JAI HIND
trans-d Wednesday, September 6, 2006 2:47:50 PM
You have raised valid points. Let us leave it to our Muslim brothers to ponder over the same. I am sure if we leave it to them instead of questioning them, it would work better. By taking positions we only invite reaction and not sensible action.
Jayanti.S Wednesday, September 6, 2006 3:34:27 PM
This was great though below the belt nevertheeless TRUE.
Grand pa is happy that some oone has spoken the way it should be,though I disagree with the language but certainely not with the content as such.....probably I have not understood the context.
Yet i feel,and very strongly,Vande Mataram should be made compulsory for us all.
Jayanti.
admin Wednesday, September 6, 2006 2:30:06 PM
Mansoor, i do agree with you that SINGING ?VANDE MATRAM? IS NOT THE SCALE OF ?PATRIOTISM? ?.
But, what does it mean if someone opposes it ????
Isn't it anti national.
I also would like to say something to A FAITHFULL INDIAN, intelligent community doesn't mean that someone should always be quite if somebody else is doing many things wrong.
One more important thing many of people here are targetting only congress, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVICE ALL OF THEM PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THE LEADERS FROM ANY PARTY, ALL ARE EK HI THAILI KE CHATTE BATTE. BJP IS MAKING SO MUCH OF NOISES AS IT IS NOT IN POWER. OTHER WISE BJP ALSO DID SAME TO BUILD ITS VOTE BANK AMONT MUSLIMS WHILE IT WAS IN POWER. BJP PROVIDED MORE GRANT TO MUDERSAS THAN ANY PREVIOUS GOVT.
SO ALL ARE CHOR CHOR MOUSERE BHAI
Proud Hindu Wednesday, September 6, 2006 3:16:48 PM
JO HUM KEH NA SKEY;
WOH KAH DIYA DOST.
BHARAT MATA KI JAI HO.
VISHWA KA KALYAN HO.
SAB MEIN PREM HO.
ZOOOOOOORRRRRR.....SE......BOLO
BHARAT MATA KI JAI HO.
VANDEEEEEE......MATARAM.
I m proud that NOW we have started exerting ourselves and Iwith all my felllow country men here iin Canada are prouud of you we too WILL SING now with more conviction and faith since we now know that WE ARE NOT ALONE back homme we have Millions to support us in this allin land..
JOSHI JI THANKS,
BHARAT MATA KI....JAI
VANDE MATARAM
Arshad Wednesday, September 6, 2006 3:19:13 PM
I have addressed the VM issue in my blog http://justlybalanced.blogspot.com under the title VM series.
It talks about the importance of verbal proclamations in Islam,a study of VM,and a final verdict about the issue.
Warm regards
shruthiu Wednesday, September 6, 2006 5:09:51 PM
great goin anil!!! tht was a nice piece of work!! worth reading for all Indians!!!
Vande Mataram...! Jai Hind!
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